QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Yeah he's better than Jimmy by the eye test for sure. Others posted the rushing and rushing TD's and Jimmy won't give you that. So he's already better than that. Scrambing and buying time to throw, playing off schedule, scrambling for yards and TD's is Brock. His whole team is hurt and all the key guys. So IMO this year is tough to evaluate.

If you can't be a threat to run you gotta be able to slice up defenses inside the pocket. Jimmy ain't that. Brock for sure has the ability to move around and extend plays, but it's not like we're calling plays for him to use his legs like other teams do with their guys.

those scramble plays are things that you and your receivers need to be on the same page with as well…Seattle practiced that s**t for years with Wilson. Mahomes and Kelce have crushed people with that, especially on 3rd downs. Arm strength matters with some of those out of structure plays as well. You can't just take 3 or 4 steps and throw the ball when you're in that position.

I have faith that Brock can play quality ball. He will absolutely need more around him than other highly paid QBs though. He doesn't have those elite level tangible traits to overcome some stuff. Is what it is. Hopefully the contract reflects that and they can keep the roster high end all around him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Brock is better than trash can but is starting to show similar faults. The farther he separates himself from Jimmy play the better. That jumping up and throwing, floating passes and most damaging phantom passes that end up as interceptions. That crap has to stop. We can't afford another Jimmy ending. Please dear lord let him continue to be better.

When Brock starts trying to knock the wind out of LBs with the ball every week, we'll know he's gone full Jimmy

I mean he's doing that with safeties instead of LBers. Brock is better and it's silly that it's debatable BUT he's not heading in the right direction

He's not constantly hitting a stationary Lb in the stomach. The safety actually had to cover ground to make the play, so it's not the same. He's also got a worse OL than Jimmy and is still a lot better

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He's not constantly hitting a stationary Lb in the stomach. The safety actually had to cover ground to make the play, so it's not the same. He's also got a worse OL than Jimmy and is still a lot better

Brock has had his fair share of floaters and horrible reads in the middle of the field. He's not Jimmy, I'm not saying that.

I remember Jimmy's first 5 games and how jacked up everyone was (including me) looking back at that film and he was tossing YOLO balls all over the place that somehow didn't get INTed. There was that in Brock's first 5 games all the same. Balls that should have been picked off but weren't just dropped or whatever. His TD to INT ratio was unsustainable and I told people that.

he played amazing last yr, I just hope that wasn't his best season as a pro and things come back down to the medium. Fingers crossed because I don't want to be looking for another QB in two yrs. I'm team Brock regardless of what you think. I just want SF to cover their asses with the contract.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
If you can't be a threat to run you gotta be able to slice up defenses inside the pocket. Jimmy ain't that. Brock for sure has the ability to move around and extend plays, but it's not like we're calling plays for him to use his legs like other teams do with their guys.

those scramble plays are things that you and your receivers need to be on the same page with as well…Seattle practiced that s**t for years with Wilson. Mahomes and Kelce have crushed people with that, especially on 3rd downs. Arm strength matters with some of those out of structure plays as well. You can't just take 3 or 4 steps and throw the ball when you're in that position.

I have faith that Brock can play quality ball. He will absolutely need more around him than other highly paid QBs though. He doesn't have those elite level tangible traits to overcome some stuff. Is what it is. Hopefully the contract reflects that and they can keep the roster high end all around him.

i think ideally we would have a guy who threatens more of the field. outside the numbers, downfield, ball spending less time in air. when a man is open in the nfl, tight windows gotta rip those throws. if you rainbow everything in there, d is gonna have time to make plays on the football. ironically, we had a guy with that arm talent and is athletic to boot now we didn't give him any games with the 1s to really showcase himself, too bad. minnesota profits from that they are going for the 1 seed here. might i suggest daniel jones, now ppl mock him but ppl mocked darnold also. jones is 6'5, he can throw it all over the field, and he's athletic also. give him time with shanny, kittle, BA, cmc, ok i bet he looks good now and we can threaten defenses in more ways. the recipe is pretty simple, get elite traits at a low price (see goff, darnold, baker, all those QBs thriving on the playoff teams now)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Yeah he's better than Jimmy by the eye test for sure. Others posted the rushing and rushing TD's and Jimmy won't give you that. So he's already better than that. Scrambing and buying time to throw, playing off schedule, scrambling for yards and TD's is Brock. His whole team is hurt and all the key guys. So IMO this year is tough to evaluate.

If you can't be a threat to run you gotta be able to slice up defenses inside the pocket. Jimmy ain't that. Brock for sure has the ability to move around and extend plays, but it's not like we're calling plays for him to use his legs like other teams do with their guys.

those scramble plays are things that you and your receivers need to be on the same page with as well…Seattle practiced that s**t for years with Wilson. Mahomes and Kelce have crushed people with that, especially on 3rd downs. Arm strength matters with some of those out of structure plays as well. You can't just take 3 or 4 steps and throw the ball when you're in that position.

I have faith that Brock can play quality ball. He will absolutely need more around him than other highly paid QBs though. He doesn't have those elite level tangible traits to overcome some stuff. Is what it is. Hopefully the contract reflects that and they can keep the roster high end all around him.

If you are going to have Brock you need a much better offensive line. They got to come out with at least 2 really good young guys to pair with Puni for the future. We have to get younger, more powerful, less injured on the offensive line. If you had a wall of an offensive line I think Brock can be pretty good. Because with time he's usually a pretty accurate thrower. He can even be pin point sometimes. The weapons I think are fine assuming some come back and are healthy. They got to get over this picking weapons high every year. We need offensive and defensive line. I was so mad when they picked Pearsall. Not because I hate him. Just WR wasn't a big need compared to offensive line. I hope he works out for the best and feel really bad for what happened to him. So if there ever was a player you cheer for and want to work out and give a lot of leeway to it's Pearsall IMO. Just the team doing it and it wasn't a need is what made me mad. They should have been and should be in the future picking offensive line. These teams like Lions pick beasts like Sewell in the 1st and we just ignore it every year. So sick of that.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

He's not constantly hitting a stationary Lb in the stomach. The safety actually had to cover ground to make the play, so it's not the same. He's also got a worse OL than Jimmy and is still a lot better

Brock has had his fair share of floaters and horrible reads in the middle of the field. He's not Jimmy, I'm not saying that.

I remember Jimmy's first 5 games and how jacked up everyone was (including me) looking back at that film and he was tossing YOLO balls all over the place that somehow didn't get INTed. There was that in Brock's first 5 games all the same. Balls that should have been picked off but weren't just dropped or whatever. His TD to INT ratio was unsustainable and I told people that.

he played amazing last yr, I just hope that wasn't his best season as a pro and things come back down to the medium. Fingers crossed because I don't want to be looking for another QB in two yrs. I'm team Brock regardless of what you think. I just want SF to cover their asses with the contract.

All I said was we know he's gone full Jimmy when he's regularly knocking the wind out of LBs. My gosh dude lol

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If you are going to have Brock you need a much better offensive line. They got to come out with at least 2 really good young guys to pair with Puni for the future. We have to get younger, more powerful, less injured on the offensive line. If you had a wall of an offensive line I think Brock can be pretty good. Because with time he's usually a pretty accurate thrower. He can even be pin point sometimes. The weapons I think are fine assuming some come back and are healthy. They got to get over this picking weapons high every year. We need offensive and defensive line. I was so mad when they picked Pearsall. Not because I hate him. Just WR wasn't a big need compared to offensive line. I hope he works out for the best and feel really bad for what happened to him. So if there ever was a player you cheer for and want to work out and give a lot of leeway to it's Pearsall IMO. Just the team doing it and it wasn't a need is what made me mad. They should have been and should be in the future picking offensive line. These teams like Lions pick beasts like Sewell in the 1st and we just ignore it every year. So sick of that.

if anything, brock can help with line deficiencies cuz he usually does well with the free rusher. i agree line is a priority, you pair shanny with a top OL and you make the ground game champ level. DET and PHI are using their great OL to win in the NFC.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If you are going to have Brock you need a much better offensive line. They got to come out with at least 2 really good young guys to pair with Puni for the future. We have to get younger, more powerful, less injured on the offensive line. If you had a wall of an offensive line I think Brock can be pretty good. Because with time he's usually a pretty accurate thrower. He can even be pin point sometimes. The weapons I think are fine assuming some come back and are healthy. They got to get over this picking weapons high every year. We need offensive and defensive line. I was so mad when they picked Pearsall. Not because I hate him. Just WR wasn't a big need compared to offensive line. I hope he works out for the best and feel really bad for what happened to him. So if there ever was a player you cheer for and want to work out and give a lot of leeway to it's Pearsall IMO. Just the team doing it and it wasn't a need is what made me mad. They should have been and should be in the future picking offensive line. These teams like Lions pick beasts like Sewell in the 1st and we just ignore it every year. So sick of that.

if anything, brock can help with line deficiencies cuz he usually does well with the free rusher. i agree line is a priority, you pair shanny with a top OL and you make the ground game champ level. DET and PHI are using their great OL to win in the NFC.

Yes I agree. For sure Detroit and Philadelphia have great offensive lines. Do they ever look at that and say well jeez? It's like they can't figure it out.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think ideally we would have a guy who threatens more of the field. outside the numbers, downfield, ball spending less time in air. when a man is open in the nfl, tight windows gotta rip those throws. if you rainbow everything in there, d is gonna have time to make plays on the football. ironically, we had a guy with that arm talent and is athletic to boot now we didn't give him any games with the 1s to really showcase himself, too bad. minnesota profits from that they are going for the 1 seed here. might i suggest daniel jones, now ppl mock him but ppl mocked darnold also. jones is 6'5, he can throw it all over the field, and he's athletic also. give him time with shanny, kittle, BA, cmc, ok i bet he looks good now and we can threaten defenses in more ways. the recipe is pretty simple, get elite traits at a low price (see goff, darnold, baker, all those QBs thriving on the playoff teams now)

Minn runs an extremely friendly QB offense (same as SF) tons of PA and easy reads. they have a quality OL and obviously the best WR in the league that gets open all day. I wouldn't be shocked if jones plays "better" than he did in NY.

But I've watched Daniel Jones for years. He ain't it. He folds under pressure, he's inaccurate and doesn't read the field well. The only reason he was worth anything to NY was based off those zone reads. At one pt he went 673 days without throwing a TD at home.

Elite traits are fine but you need something between the ears too. Like will Levis has tons of tangible traits, dude stinks.

imo I thought Stafford would have been amazing with Kyle.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think ideally we would have a guy who threatens more of the field. outside the numbers, downfield, ball spending less time in air. when a man is open in the nfl, tight windows gotta rip those throws. if you rainbow everything in there, d is gonna have time to make plays on the football. ironically, we had a guy with that arm talent and is athletic to boot now we didn't give him any games with the 1s to really showcase himself, too bad. minnesota profits from that they are going for the 1 seed here. might i suggest daniel jones, now ppl mock him but ppl mocked darnold also. jones is 6'5, he can throw it all over the field, and he's athletic also. give him time with shanny, kittle, BA, cmc, ok i bet he looks good now and we can threaten defenses in more ways. the recipe is pretty simple, get elite traits at a low price (see goff, darnold, baker, all those QBs thriving on the playoff teams now)

Minn runs an extremely friendly QB offense (same as SF) tons of PA and easy reads. they have a quality OL and obviously the best WR in the league that gets open all day. I wouldn't be shocked if jones plays "better" than he did in NY.

But I've watched Daniel Jones for years. He ain't it. He folds under pressure, he's inaccurate and doesn't read the field well. The only reason he was worth anything to NY was based off those zone reads. At one pt he went 673 days without throwing a TD at home.

Elite traits are fine but you need something between the ears too. Like will Levis has tons of tangible traits, dude stinks.

imo I thought Stafford would have been amazing with Kyle.

Man he's so inaccurate. Timing is all off. Reads are terrible. He's thin and even the arm strength is overrated. I honestly think Purdy is much better than Daniel Jones. I have no idea how he was a 1st round pick? Probably because he's 6'5". Darnold is a much better thrower than him. Purdy is better too.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He's not constantly hitting a stationary Lb in the stomach. The safety actually had to cover ground to make the play, so it's not the same. He's also got a worse OL than Jimmy and is still a lot better

Brock has had his fair share of floaters and horrible reads in the middle of the field. He's not Jimmy, I'm not saying that.

I remember Jimmy's first 5 games and how jacked up everyone was (including me) looking back at that film and he was tossing YOLO balls all over the place that somehow didn't get INTed. There was that in Brock's first 5 games all the same. Balls that should have been picked off but weren't just dropped or whatever. His TD to INT ratio was unsustainable and I told people that.

he played amazing last yr, I just hope that wasn't his best season as a pro and things come back down to the medium. Fingers crossed because I don't want to be looking for another QB in two yrs. I'm team Brock regardless of what you think. I just want SF to cover their asses with the contract.

All I said was we know he's gone full Jimmy when he's regularly knocking the wind out of LBs. My gosh dude lol

My gosh what 🤨

i'll be interested to see what we do at QB2, i think QB1 is gonna play out like we think it is. QB2 could go in a number of directions. maybe dobbs if he showcases some stuff here.

Originally posted by Montana:
We still talkin Mayfield?
"Purdy will get much more for whatever reason"?

Exactly I said the same thing last page. You gotta be kidding me. Pretty is better in every single way haha.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock was top 15 in play-action attempts and the difference in him being top 10 and 14th is like 15 attempts. Sure they could have run it more. Still wasn't like they didn't at all.

I'm sorry so our $250M QB can only be good if he gets to throw a f**k ton of screens to guys like CMC and Deebo? If that's the case then he's not some amazing QB. Acting like he's not allowed to throw a check down is telling me you don't watch the film.

Brendel stinks, he's currently the 17th ranked center on PFF. He was just as bad last yr (16th overall).

Why does all our receivers have to lead in the in separation for him to be good? It's the NFL it's all about making tight window throws with anticipation for guys like Brock. He simply wasn't doing that at the level he was doing last yr. Period. We all know the roster was not close to it was last yr, it doesn't help Brock's case that he is more reliant on the players around him then some other highly paid QBs.

Brock's passer rating in the 2nd half of games that they were tied or trailing he was 20th in the league. Thats not good. Thats not clutch.

look man I don't hate Brock, I'm all for him getting extended and being the guy. He isn't that elite level QB that's gonna take over games and help lesser rosters be good. He ain't that and his pay check should reflect that. They HAVE to have a damn good roster around him to make it work and that cost money.

IMO Brock isn't better than baker. mayfield has been through like 8 HCs and over 8 OCs in his 8 yrs in the league. Brock was on one of the best rosters that the league has season in 5 yrs last yr, with a top 5 HC/OC. You're comparing apples to oranges because you're a fan.

This tells me that you don't bother reading. You can say he's ranked 17th but you know he's dead last he is 35th to correct you yet again.

I did not say he has to throw a ton of screens just maybe one or two a game like some of the best qbs do and their play callers. Are you serious right now?

you gotta focus on the points being made not speaking in hyperbole. Only you and this is known by many of us go to these extremes to defend your opinions. Nobody ever said we needed our receivers to get the most separation or our play caller to call a ton of screens just more than let's say maybe 5 to 10 teams? Not last or close to it?

I did not say our receivers need to get the best separation but as you may have missed because you obviously don't watch film or listen to anything but yourself, we were last in separation for so many weeks.

Can you agree with those points? Let's start small.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Man he's so inaccurate. Timing is all off. Reads are terrible. He's thin and even the arm strength is overrated. I honestly think Purdy is much better than Daniel Jones. I have no idea how he was a 1st round pick? Probably because he's 6'5". Darnold is a much better thrower than him. Purdy is better too.

Jones has a much better arm. He's pretty athletic, Brock is by far better at being a QB though.

jones was over drafted